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Post by OneBadHuskerFan Wed Feb 13, 2013 5:16 pm

Last week, a GameStop spokesman alluded to internal research that the company said showed consumers were significantly less likely to buy a console that wasn't able to play second-hand games, but it wouldn't reveal the specific results of that survey. Now, a GameStop executive has said publicly that three out of five customers it surveyed said they wouldn't buy such a system.

GameStop: 60% of customers won’t buy console that doesn’t play used games

I didn't get surveyed, but I'm in the 60%. Man, I'm hoping really hard that the next gen's allow used games.
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Post by S7 Sticky Wed Feb 13, 2013 5:56 pm

i hate this has then has been a few games i would have never played and fell in love with with out buying it used Dead Space was one of them



but if the next gens if they do it i will limit my self to mostly AAA titles
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Post by S7 mrmiller Wed Feb 13, 2013 6:14 pm

Still, to think that GameStop surveyed their customers and only got a little over half, would not worry MS or Sony much. I mean, a business that makes money selling used games, surveying shoppers who are probably there to buy used games, running a survey on used games, and only gets 60%? If I was the GS CEO, I would not have posted that, as I would expect 75% or better of my customers to support me.

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Post by S7 Panzer Wed Feb 13, 2013 7:02 pm

I is just disappointing to see Sony and Microsoft take this direction it could really hurt/destroy companies like Gamefly, Gamestop/ EB games, and another other big rental store. I feel in this overall change will hurt console gamers and companies that support them. As a person that mostly plays only PC games its just another reason to stay where I'm at.
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Post by Xpert2010 Thu Feb 14, 2013 9:37 am

I know GameStop is trying to save their business and all, but I really don't think that number will matter once the new systems release. I'd be willing to bet that most of that 60% will end up buying either system in the end, whether the systems play used games or not.
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Post by OneBadHuskerFan Thu Feb 14, 2013 10:40 am

Xpert2010 wrote:I know GameStop is trying to save their business and all, but I really don't think that number will matter once the new systems release. I'd be willing to bet that most of that 60% will end up buying either system in the end, whether the systems play used games or not.

It really just depends on how many of those 60% use gamefly consistently. I use gamefly all the time and play tons of games but I rarely buy new ones. Telling me I can't play used games isn't going to convince me to all of a sudden start buying them new just because they say so.

With all that said, I may still end up buying one just because my friends will want to play with me online, lol.
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Post by Xpert2010 Thu Feb 14, 2013 11:24 am

OneBadHuskerFan wrote:
Xpert2010 wrote:I know GameStop is trying to save their business and all, but I really don't think that number will matter once the new systems release. I'd be willing to bet that most of that 60% will end up buying either system in the end, whether the systems play used games or not.

With all that said, I may still end up buying one just because my friends will want to play with me online, lol.

That's the main reason why I said what I said. People aren't going to give up gaming, basically, because of this.
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Post by Atrum Thu Feb 14, 2013 12:07 pm

Yup, that's probably what MS and Sony will have decided as well if they go with the 'no used games' policy.

It's going to suck for people that rent or buy used, or have a job at Gamestop.
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Post by S7 K1ll3rKlown Thu Feb 14, 2013 1:23 pm

The question I have is will game prices remain at $60 or will this be yet another reason to boost the price? New technology, new gaming engine, new experience, games are now in 3D, IllumiRoom display, blah,blah,blah. Suddenly these new games are $80 a pop and since Xbox and PS are doing it you have to buy it because they are the "only game in town" so to speak.

http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/146536-illumiroom-peripheral-projection-is-this-the-xbox-720s-killer-feature

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Post by S7 mrmiller Thu Feb 14, 2013 2:21 pm

That is pretty cool Klown. If they can create a reasonable price sperical camera like in the bottom diagram, it would be cool and integrated into the kinect sensor, even if you didn't use it all the time.

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Post by S7 Sticky Thu Feb 14, 2013 2:32 pm

with the PC digital copy's normally runs 39.99 for normal edition collectors are 59.99


i tell you what if i have to pay 80 buck for a normal edition of the game ill will stick to pc gaming .
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Post by S7 K1ll3rKlown Thu Feb 14, 2013 2:48 pm

S7 Sticky wrote:i tell you what if i have to pay 80 buck for a normal edition of the game ill will stick to pc gaming .

You sure? They do this to you everytime you buy a game followed immediately by a DLC package.
It's just broken down so you don't feel the pain. $60 + $15 adds up to $75 no matter how you slice it. Perhaps the marketing dept. starts putting out ads saying "now with DLC included" or something. But it's all the same.
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Post by S7 Sticky Thu Feb 14, 2013 3:59 pm

thats IF dlc stay the same price
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Post by Xpert2010 Thu Feb 14, 2013 4:28 pm

S7 Sticky wrote:with the PC digital copy's normally runs 39.99 for normal edition collectors are 59.99
i tell you what if i have to pay 80 buck for a normal edition of the game ill will stick to pc gaming .

Honestly, if the retail price for console games rise, then you're probably going to see retail price for PC games to rise just the same.
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Post by S7 K1ll3rKlown Thu Feb 14, 2013 4:53 pm

Things are going to be pretty bad for Gamestop. They are talking it'll be mandatory to download all games to xbox720 HDD. That means I can buy the new Tomb Raider from my living room and download to my xbox (actually, you already can now if you want) but this means since you don't have a choice there's no reason at all to go to gamestop for a disc. The store will only sell consoles and the 80 page gamer guide followed by eventually downsizing and then when those aren't keeping the business afloat going out of business.
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Post by S7 Sticky Thu Feb 14, 2013 5:27 pm

plus if its a digital copy meaning they did not have to pay company's like
activision to make millions of hard copy's there should be no need to jack up prices that high i could see mybe game 39.99 plus an added 5 bucks for the DL server for the game and if u wanted to add the first round of dlc then 59.99

i think if they went all digital it would hurt publishing company alot more they would move to an almost all server base set up fire ALOT of people and get ride of there Assembly line for making a disc game which im sure is alot of money


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Post by S7 SecurityGuy Fri Feb 15, 2013 9:06 am

S7 Sticky wrote:plus if its a digital copy meaning they did not have to pay company's like
activision to make millions of hard copy's there should be no need to jack up prices that high i could see mybe game 39.99 plus an added 5 bucks for the DL server for the game and if u wanted to add the first round of dlc then 59.99

i think if they went all digital it would hurt publishing company alot more they would move to an almost all server base set up fire ALOT of people and get ride of there Assembly line for making a disc game which im sure is alot of money



The physical media is not very expensive. I would venture to say it cost < 1.00 for box, artwork,dvd and packaging. All the money is in the content. That is why you will not see a decrease in prices when it goes to downloads only.
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Post by S7 K1ll3rKlown Fri Feb 15, 2013 3:11 pm

Gamestop trying to fight back... 9t7BIBi
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Post by S7 Sticky Fri Feb 15, 2013 7:21 pm

S7 K1ll3rKlown wrote:Gamestop trying to fight back... 9t7BIBi

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Post by DeadSockPuppet Fri Feb 15, 2013 10:57 pm

That is pretty sweet Klown.
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Post by S7 Nate Sat Feb 16, 2013 8:58 am

sad to hear.

however this wont hurt the BIG retailers like Best Buy, target, walmart.
the ones i can see going out of business are gamestop and the little no name game stores.

But regardless of what that "survey" says, people are going to buy the systems. whether its playstation or xbox.

sh1t like this happens. sh1t evolves. look at the whole video rental business. Blockbuster is out at the expense of downloadable video.
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Post by DerangeMaverick Sat Feb 16, 2013 12:53 pm

If they will sell digital media games for download only that will probably be the only way to really ban used games. Meaning no more disc. Not sure who they will do it. Although why not go the route that many ubisoft games are going and ea games where you buy a used game but cant play online unless you buy a passport code. Making all games require a code would also make people think twice about buying a used game if i still have to buy a code for 15 dollars and a used game for 50 bucks makes it more expensive for me.

Either way i dont know what they will do but i hope we dont get the big screw job on this.
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Post by Atrum Sat Feb 16, 2013 4:24 pm

DerangeMaverick wrote:If they will sell digital media games for download only that will probably be the only way to really ban used games. Meaning no more disc.

They articles indicated that you would need to connect online and basically register the game/disc to your gamertag/console.
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Post by OneBadHuskerFan Sat Feb 16, 2013 5:03 pm

Well as it turns out I just got a nice raise at work so that's kind of changed my thinking on this. My issue all along was about affordability but this raise drfinitely puts me over that threshold. I still don't like the idea but now I think it won't matter for me either way.
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Post by S7 Vision67 Mon Feb 18, 2013 2:03 am

AtrumX wrote: or have a job at Gamestop.

I think these people have a whole 'nother set of problems to deal with.
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